Friday, February 19, 2010

Tim Pawlenty Speach CPAC 2010

This is worth a listen.

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Blogger TOM said...

Gov. Pawlenty signed the "No New Tax" Republican pledge position.
He took office in Minnesota with a 600 million dollar surplus. Right now (with a couple of years still left in his term) Minnesota has a 5.75 Billion dollar deficit.
When will Republicans learn, that there is no free lunch. It's expensive to maintenance the best country in the World.
I for one, am willing to pay higher taxes, to not become some bankrupt 3rd World country.
Cute speech, but worthless in telling Americans how he will solve our financial problems.
A proven fact of American financial History, is that tax cuts do not create enough economic growth, create enough jobs, but just leave us more debt.

9:17 AM, February 20, 2010  
Blogger ablur said...

Tom - perhaps you forgot that the governor works much like the president and has no control of the purse strings. The blame for runaway spending falls on the congress. The governor or president are figure heads who command the bully pulpit. They have the power of the veto pen but the art of persuasion of the populous is the key to their success. If they persuade the people and congress to adopt policies that ultimately fail then the blame lands squarely on them.

7:43 PM, February 20, 2010  
Blogger TOM said...

I did not forget. Are you aware that Pawlenty has vetoed many bills and just recently vetoed GA medical, which the State Congress is planning to override.
Ga medical is for the poorest of the poor.
But he supports putting 100's of millions into a new sports arena. Sorry, I don't agree with his Scrooge like priorities.
The ONLY tax he did approve was a $1.00 a pack tax on cigs.
Since when is the minority (smokers 20% of Minnesotans) responsible to pay for the bills of the majority?
That cig. tax goes to the general fund, not some special fund to pay for the State medical costs of smokers.
Easy excuse. Would you expect the State Congress to kill all services? Minnesotans do not, and are sick of the pot holes (and other services) not being maintained.
The 35W bridge collapse is a symbol of his administartion.
Numerous bridges have been closed, with no help from the State to repair them.
Right, blame anybody but the Gov.

8:49 PM, February 20, 2010  
Blogger ablur said...

Tom - There are thousands of good causes that need our attention. The needs are endless, more and more people have come to the political leaders to express their pain and attempt to garner support for their cause. Many suffer from afflictions not yet covered by government programs.
The pockets are starting to run out of money everywhere. Where do we draw the line?
The purpose of government isn't to right every wrong or save everyone. This is an impossible task. Government is meant to be limited so the people would have enough to deal with those who have needs around them. The government system is the slowest and most wasteful means of doing almost everything and yet this seems to be the choice of many for the action.

The government has gotten so bold in its taking that charities who react at the speed of lightening in comparison to government are struggling to meet the needs. Communities no longer have the means to help their own and neighbors often fail to support one another because a government program they are paying for should do it.

We need to remove government from so many things so that they can be actually done, right and in a timely fashion. We don't need the added cost of bureaucrats. We need results.

Gov. Pawlenty isn't my ideal candidate. I have even occasionally spoken harsh about him. Look instead at what was actually said that had substance. There are some kernels of value in there. Don't miss out on the gold nuggets when you are panning.

9:23 PM, February 20, 2010  
Blogger TOM said...

Safe streets and bridges are not a cause.
Transportation systems are not a cause Schools are not a cause.
Libraries are not a cause. Maintaining government is not a cause.
Police and fire, is not a cause. These things and more, are our society.
I refuse to destroy the society generations have worked hard and died for, to ensure our lives were better than theirs.
While building the greatest society in the World, our ancestors paid taxes at a rate of 70%, or more. Yet economic growth was the greatest the World has ever known.
The question is, why are we no longer willing to pay to remain the best country in the World?
How is it the Gov. always gets his tax cuts, but does not cut spending?
How is it that he can take a 600 million dollar surplus and turn it into a 5 billion dollar debt?
Is a leader responsible, if he leads us into bankruptcy?
How is it a sports arena is a higher priority than care for the poor.
These people have no where else to turn. You speak as if they are bums just freeloading on the government.
These are not suburbanites looking to pad their $80,000. dollar incomes with food stamps.
Living off the government, is a life of poverty. It should be. It's only a help, not an income to live off of.
In Minnesota to qualify for GA cash ($200.00 dollars a month) you have to be over 55, or have a disability. Unemployment is not a reason to qualify for GA.
Please spare me the never ending conservative complaint, that people just want from government lecture.
A society is rightfully judged by the way it treats its children, elderly, and sick.
We draw the line at the level of need. I don't want to go back to the 20th century before government safety nets when people were literally dying in the streets due to lack of food, shelter and housing.
I don't want to live in an America, that is no better than a 3rd World country.
Where is the simple Math? Gov. Pawlenty is a college graduate. Does he really think he can spend 5 times more than he brings in?
This 5 billion dollar debt was not there when he took office. It is his debt.
It's not reality to just say, "No New Taxes" that's why we are in debt and allowing our society to crumble.
Fine, you want to end government, phase it out, don't bankrupt the system in the term of one Gov. (that took generations to build) and end up with what? Anarchy!
When you do end government, what will you have?
Throw people in the streets. helping people is NOT the biggest cost to government.
That GA medical program cost 455 million dollars and the sports stadium will cost Minnesota tax payers from 400-500 million dollars. We will have to disagree on Pawlenty's priorities.

10:54 PM, February 20, 2010  
Blogger ablur said...

Tom - I didn't post this speech because I idealize the accomplishments of this man. Much of what you list I can agree with. There were horrible decissions made in Minnasota.

I am unwilling to simply throw out the baby with the bath water. Humans make mistakes. I make mistakes. You make mistakes.

I look for the grains of truth and the good ideas that can be harvested out of what has been brought before us.

Even Hitler had some good ideas. The Autobon is an incredible idea that came from a mad man at best.

It took Edison over 200 trys before inventing the light bulb.

You some times have to pan a ton of dirt for an ounce of gold.

I am not here to sing the praises of Pawlenty. Your list of failures points out he is flawed in many ways. I don't want him as president.

I am unwilling to give up 70% of my income to government. It can be done better and cheaper. I don't have time to list all the things government shouldn't do. America is the most giving and noble people on the planet. We fix what we destroy and pay for others failures out of our own pockets, while taking nothing.

We can do better then what we have.

5:26 AM, February 21, 2010  

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